tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4593388140454867428.post2793916481211897106..comments2009-11-02T15:10:08.748-08:00Willhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01173316804999411413noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4593388140454867428.post-77121430179915818992009-11-02T15:10:08.748-08:002009-11-02T15:10:08.748-08:00Midnight, despite the scorn some have for it there is some precedence for the notched lapel on dinner jackets. I place it between shawl and peak. <br /><br />Patrick, Coward&#39;s jacket was photographed many times, but always in black and white to the best of my knowledge. Brown was his trademark but to his credit it was a shade so dark that it looked black under artificial light.Willhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01173316804999411413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4593388140454867428.post-51021460853658372892009-11-02T09:15:46.599-08:002009-11-02T09:15:46.599-08:00The mention of dark brown evening wear intrigued me. Are there any color photos of Mr. Coward&#39;s ensemble? Was that a &#39;trademark&#39; of his or have other fashionable gentlemen been known to wear something similar?originalpatrickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18006947774999762696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4593388140454867428.post-29435913213263820592009-11-02T07:41:31.671-08:002009-11-02T07:41:31.671-08:00I strongly recomend thius site:<br /><br />http://www.blacktieguide.com/<br /><br />The research is fantastic and it has great insights into the history, ettiqute and styles of black tie wear.Henryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18085663049096512110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4593388140454867428.post-6625493083337075192009-11-02T06:38:52.956-08:002009-11-02T06:38:52.956-08:00Where would you place the notched lapel in the DJ hierarchy? To me it falls below even the DB shawl collar.Midnight Bluehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18113657360221841868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4593388140454867428.post-77934378010553053602009-11-01T18:37:05.783-08:002009-11-01T18:37:05.783-08:00Macaroni, the most formal is single breasted, peak lapel and matching waistcoat, worn with a stiff winged collar shirt. <br /><br />Both versionis are fine virtually anywhere, as M. Fan writes, but clothes hobbyists like to know the provenance of what they wear. And those men with several jackets to choose from do adapt their clothing to the occasion.Willhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01173316804999411413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4593388140454867428.post-68482471947440543772009-11-01T16:44:08.324-08:002009-11-01T16:44:08.324-08:00You may be right, but these days even the least formal dinner suit is more than formal enough 99% of the time.M. Fanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01241923218506851097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4593388140454867428.post-571415821386895032009-11-01T12:03:05.648-08:002009-11-01T12:03:05.648-08:00Will, can You please explain formality of DJ ? I know the least formal, what is the most formal?Macaroni Tomatohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16211464118518218585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4593388140454867428.post-52940333610451964982009-11-01T10:04:48.842-08:002009-11-01T10:04:48.842-08:00Nice photo. <br />I have always preferred DB than SB. I remember a photo of you wearing one of these that was one of the best shots I have ever seen.<br />Nevertheless with peak labels is even nicer. Oscar Larrainzar wears vert nice black ties tooEl Aristócratahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17061506845445991132noreply@blogger.com